An official guidebook of sorts?

Discussion in 'Story of Seasons/Bokujo/Popolo' started by Christian Rodriguez, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. Christian Rodriguez

    Christian Rodriguez New Member

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    I am not sure if this has much to do with the game, but I have always been an avid collector of guidebooks for my favorite games, I know a couple of books have been publish in the past for Rune Factory and the like, I was wondering if there are any official guidebooks for Story of Seasons being made outside of japan. Or is it to niche of a thing to have. I am curious to own a English copy of both if at all possible.
     
  2. Wyrdwad

    Wyrdwad Administrator Staff Member

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    Regrettably, we haven't ever been able to publish any guidebooks for any of the Story of Seasons games in English, so you'll only be able to find those in Japanese.

    -Tom
     
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    If you have an interest in the Japanese guidebooks (I have a Japanese guidebook for Animal Crossing and though it's not as helpful as having it in English, it is useful sometimes even though I can't read a word of it) I know there are four different guidebooks available for Trio in Japan, you can get a look at them here: https://talesofthreetowns.tumblr.com/post/156136169010/i-was-taking-out-all-of-my-trio-of-towns . The owner of that tumblr account is very helpful and nice, btw, so if you were to want to ask something about the guides, you could just send her a message or an 'ask'.

    A guidebook in English would be fun but it seems unlikely we'll get one since the market probably isn't nearly big enough to warrant the huge load of work it would take to do all that translation. The AC market is much larger and I was a little surprised we got a guide in English for that. I'd buy it if there were one, even though there's no need with FOGU. It'd just be fun to have, I guess :)
     
  4. Christian Rodriguez

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    Thanks for your replies guys, I am just a bit sad that guides are not a thing anymore. I guess it was wishful thinking to have a guide in English.
     
  5. Wyrdwad

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    Well, I mean, we've released guidebooks for our games in the past! But only as part of LE box sets. Both Ragnarok Odyssey and Ys: Memories of Celceta came with books that weren't just collections of art, but actual strategy guides as well -- and even Ys I & II Chronicles had a little mini-guide in the back of its instruction manual.

    It's not something we do very often, however, as it requires a tremendous time commitment to write an effective guidebook, and especially for a game like Story of Seasons (where there are SO MANY VARIABLES), it's simply beyond the scope of what we're typically able to do for our game releases.

    ...Or has been thus far, at least. In the future, though, who knows? I doubt you've seen the last Story of Seasons release from XSEED Games/Marvelous USA, and maybe in a future installment, we can consider writing a guidebook to include with a special limited-edition box set of the game or something. We usually prefer to include pocket plushies or things of that nature, but we're always open to new ideas on how better to market our titles to you guys, since it's ultimately for you lovely players that we do what we do!

    (...I'm sure Calros will strangle me at work tomorrow for even suggesting the idea, however, since inevitably HE would be the one who'd have to write it! Heheheh...)

    -Tom
     
  6. Kikki

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    You guys did put a wee booklet in Trio of Towns, too...a super-mini starter guide :) Those are getting rarer with all games, these days. Lately with all games I'm pretty surprised when we actually get a full guidebook in English. Maybe 'official guides' (like the stuff Prima sometimes puts out) don't sell very many copies in English? I'm sorry you're disappointed, Christian Rodriguez. I can understand it. Guides are nice to have, and that's even if you don't actually need them...they just tend to have more detail than you can ever uncover on your own, because these games are so big and detailed.

    If available in English, I would have had a special interest in the one 'romance specific' guide that hikariplaydiary (owner of that tumblr I linked) mentioned, where it contains the transcripts for every heart/flower event, because I like to see those for all of the characters rather than just the ones I am interested in marrying my MC to. It also contained commentary by Hashimoto, a little extra you can't get anywhere else. :) But any guide that clues you in to little details you probably would never have found out on your own are really cool. Like knowing exactly how pet levels and pet skill work...how many 'points' are in each level and so on. When I play the game that's a mystery to me, but there IS an actual numerical value assigned to everything, and I like knowing what they are. I'm probably in the minority in what I like, though, lol. And I'm happy as long as I get the games themselves, whether they come with bonuses or not. (Though collector's editions obviously do have to come with some special addition.)

    A guidebook for SoS would be a big undertaking, and might not sell enough to be worth the amount of labour that'd have to go into it since it's a niche game and not everyone in that niche is willing to buy a guidebook. Poor Calros, just thinking about creating one as a bonus must be exhausting. I know Cherubae takes quite a few months to put together an online resource to give people a (very solid but) basic resource when they can't figure out how to trigger an event or find chili pepper seeds anywhere even though they need them to get Lulukoko to Rank C. :) (50 wasabi to Tsuyukusa or get Tsuyukusa to Rank B! And really, who could just guess that shipping 50 wasabi to Tsuyukusa would unlock chili pepper seeds? Maybe some people can, but I can't. I use online resources a lot with these games.)

    Well if one ever gets sold, or if one came with a collector's edition, I will buy it, though. Just to state my position :) But I think an entire guide would be pretty outrageous to offer as a bonus when it seems like it might take as much work to create a comprehensive guide as to localize the game itself.

    Yep, XSEED is quite well-loved among bokumono fans ime, at least ones with an online presence, cuz we know you guys work hard and are aware of the fan community. Thanks, guys. :) (I hope we buy enough to make it worth it!)
     
  7. Calros

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    While all of this is still hypothetical, I do like the idea of a guidebook or an art book, maybe as part of a limited edition for a future title. I love the pocket plushies, but it would be cool to do something extra for fans of the series. Don't hold me to any of this, but these are things that we think about for all of our series.

    It makes things easier if the Japanese developer creates materials that we can adapt, but creating something from scratch isn't out of the question. We do always try to include physical manuals with our games. The instruction manual for Trio of Towns took a lot of time to put together because it isn't a direct adaptation of an existing manual--the Japanese version came with a really nifty but simple fold-out manual. However, the Japanese e-manual is more expansive than ours, and our printed manual was based partly on it's structure.

    We actually use the Japanese guidebooks while working on the games.
     
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  8. Christian Rodriguez

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    I did not think this would warrant a discussion. I am as most would say an old gamer. I always like collecting things from my favorite series and the like. I been a Harvest Moon fan since the N64 (though did not get to try the snes ones) era and will not stop being one anytime soon. I am happy to hear that there is actually some consideration for future titles. By no means it is a promise, but maybe theirs hope for a collector like myself.

    Edit: I usually paid a premium for official guides. Not sure how much an official guide would be now a days but I paid around 20-30$ U.S. so I am not sure how much guides would go for current year.
     
  9. ChaosAzerothCat

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    Weird, I wanna say the Island of Happiness guide was less than $20, I know it wasn't more. I don't think any of the guides I got before ever were $30.

    I think the guides I see recently run about $30, about $40 if the larger ones and/or hardcover.
     
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    Um, why are you commenting with copy-pasted pieces of other people's comments, but no words of your own? Here it's Wyrdwad's comment, and in the other thread, it was Calros' comment. I don't understand. Are you trying to quote them?
     
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    It's probably a bot.
     
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    I thought bots were set to post for purpose of advertisement of some kind. Like the ones that try to get you to buy cialis or viagra...or fake passports and stuff. They can post for no reason at all?
     
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    We have had bots in the paste that will randomly pull sentences/posts from other users. I have no idea what their purpose is though.
     
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    There are some (very small) links in the bottom of their post.
     
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    I didn't even notice, lol. I don't know if that means they're really slick, or just really ineffective. I thought because they were using words from Xseed members in both cases that they were actually trying to quote something and just hadn't figured out how. Oops.
     
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    It kinda mimics how people put links in forum signatures.
     
  17. Calros

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    Yep, it was a spambot.
     
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